億力資訊股份有限公司

Good project control, with few opportunities for overtime.

Compensatory leave is provided

An IT project staffing company

The salary for ordinary engineers is not high, around 40k

No overtime pay

No written test

Don't waste your time coming here; HR will only want to ask about the development process at your previous company.

A project-based company with many partner companies, including foreign companies. It is considered one of the lower-barrier ways to enter a large company. If you’re lucky, you may get to work at your dream company.

The recruiter named Irene kept trying to persuade me to go to an interview, but her attitude afterward was quite poor, which made me very uncomfortable. I don’t know about the other recruiters.

Introduce yourself and answer some basic questions, then see which project you are assigned to.

Outsourcing company

If you're lucky, you may be assigned to your dream company.

After you finish introducing yourself, they don't ask any technical questions; they only ask you some basic questions.

It depends on which project you are assigned to. The recruiter, Irene, will keep trying to persuade you to go for the interview.

(1) HR is “very” polite on the surface.

(2) A laptop purchase subsidy of NT$30,000 is provided, but it is not paid all at once. It is distributed over 2.5 years, with NT$1,000 paid per month as a general rule.

(1) You are assigned to work long-term at another company’s location, but you have to provide your own laptop (they will not provide a computer for work).

(2) They directly slash your expected salary by NT$5,000, reducing it to almost the same as your original salary, and then ask, “Is this acceptable?”

(3) If you politely decline an invitation arranged by HR, she may respond in a way that seemingly makes job seekers feel intimidated. The following is reproduced verbatim:

“Also, we would like to remind you in advance that ＯＯＯＯ maintains its own internal list of job seekers who cancel interview opportunities. This may affect your interview opportunities with them in the future. We wanted to let you know in advance. Thank you.”

Isn’t it superficially very polite but actually quite uncomfortable? :)

(1) HR is “superficially” very polite.

(2) They provide a NT$30,000 laptop purchase subsidy, but it is not paid all at once; it is paid over 2.5 years, generally at NT$1,000 per month.

(1) You are assigned to work long-term at another company’s site, but you have to provide your own laptop (they will not provide a computer for work).

(2) They will directly slash your expected salary by NT$5,000, reducing it to nearly the same as your original salary, and then ask, “Would this be acceptable?”

(3) If you politely decline an invitation arranged by HR, she may respond in a way that seems intended to make job seekers feel intimidated. The following is reproduced verbatim:

“Just a reminder: OOOO maintains its own internal list of job seekers who cancel interview opportunities, which may affect your chances of interviewing with them in the future. I wanted to let you know in advance. Thank you.”

Isn’t it superficially very polite but actually quite uncomfortable? :)

When you're stationed at a client site, the company can't really keep tabs on you.

Once you get familiar with the client-side staff, does the company even know whether you show up for work?

For a staffing company, the benefits are considered pretty poor.

1. You have to provide your own computer. The company contributes 30,000, but pays it in monthly installments of 1,000...

2. The sales representative only shows up when you resign or need to sign documents; otherwise, you barely feel their presence.

(Oh, they also show up when the client reports a problem.)

3. When the spring banquet was canceled, there was no replacement payment or compensation.

The HR staff and the administrative assistant are nice people. That is the only advantage.

Most engineers who come here are only sent out to work at client sites.

However, the customer always comes first. For dispatched employees like us, once we are sent off-site, we have virtually no rights.

There was a time when I worked past 9:30 p.m. for two consecutive weeks, and the latest I ever got off work was 11:30 p.m.

By the way, none of the above overtime was paid. At most, you are given compensatory leave, but you can never use it all,

because you will still be working overtime day and night until your liver bursts, and you are not allowed to refuse.

The client will bombard the engineers together with the vendor—in short, the customer always comes first.

In addition to the small salary increases, there are virtually no employee benefits.

The projects assigned by the company also provide very poor experiences, and the elderly boss does not manage things much.

The sales staff also treat engineers as commodities. When there is actually a disagreement with the client,

they do not help coordinate; it is always the engineers who suffer in silence...

Quite a few people are really good at singing hahaha

Wait a second, I suddenly thought of these two things about HR and wanted to share them. Sometimes the details are hidden in a single second.

1. They have a secret crush on their supervisor and often start to say something, then stop, reading the other person’s expressions and trying to gain a certain impression or recognition (sometimes positive, sometimes negative).

2. When they’re in a bad mood, they still have to make themselves look very happy, forcing themselves to smile until they cry just to satisfy others. I find that sad.

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I’m currently forwarding the sexy photos I found online to my friend. What does “turning reality into fantasy” mean? And I still have to rate it from 1 to 5 stars. This isn’t the first time—I’m going to cry.

Does your HR department have nothing else to do? What exactly hasn’t been fully paid? What addictive game are you playing over and over again???

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Go to interviews separately from your friends, and then HR will proactively give you their Line ID.

Please stop sending banana stickers to my friend. He has a girlfriend. How badly do you want to eat them, or how badly do you want to fool around?

(I never received any.)

This is a one-way road—don't come in.

But after looking into it more deeply, I discovered that the background behind your official stance on the Labor Standards Act is really quite complicated. There are historical, political, economic, and various other factors involved. So whenever I see these things, I still feel very uncomfortable. It seems to be saying that engineers, simply because they are engineers, must be subjected to the arbitrariness of people like you.

Some people are just too gullible—serves them right! They brought it on themselves!

As the saying goes, one rotten apple spoils the whole barrel—there really is no better way to describe it.

You’ll find that the client’s discussion seems to be going very well, and even though your strengths are in C, HR will tell you the role focuses more on Java and QA. I really can’t figure it out.

Don’t be naive—it’s simply because there are crappy positions that nobody wants to take. They won’t send out your résumé; they’ll tell you the company is still discussing things internally, when in fact only crappy positions are left. Whether you want one is up to you.

They can’t even find the project lead, yet they restrict what people can say. Funny, right? I’m not going to hold back! Guess whether I dare say it.

Oh, right~

Also, what this company calls being customer-oriented means that whenever a client files a complaint, they immediately handle the follow-up as an urgent matter. The people assigned to the client are the ones who end up exhausted. Overtime is the norm at this company, and it’s not even clear whether you’ll get paid for it. It’s downright disgusting.

Challenge your own limits

Inside information suggests that the company is currently controlling what people can say. However, rumors keep circulating, only to be denied by the company again and again.

The content is communicated only one way. To do this properly, you really need long-term vision and strategy????

To build a good relationship with clients, they set very tight or nearly impossible deadlines.

Then, if you cannot finish on time, they tell you to work overtime. If you still cannot finish despite working overtime, they deduct it from your year-end bonus.

If they are in a hurry, they may launch something even when it is incomplete, but if problems arise, they still deduct it from your year-end bonus. They then pressure you to work overtime again, in a semi-coercive manner. There are also other issues. The guidelines and so on are all just slogans; in practice, they simply do whatever they want.

HR is fake and "very" polite, emphasizing that supervisors will constantly monitor your behavior and reactions, including while you are typing.

They disappear whenever there is a problem, but come out to bask in the attention when there is nothing going on. However, the attention is now nowhere near what it used to be.

Also~ When they feel guilty about being caught doing something wrong, they keep scratching their hair—constantly, without stopping. They keep saying, "Look, this is all so difficult, QQ, so difficult, QQ." Should they just sing a song instead?

So, for those of you with the ability to think and make judgments, and with a sharp eye, memorize the Labor Standards Act. This is supposedly the ideal company??????

A pack of lies

I’ll gossip a little too. The tasks are numerous, miscellaneous, and disorganized; the actual implementation content differs, the designs differ, and execution efficiency also varies. The customer has the final say. If you disagree, you’ll be passed around from person to person, and no one will pay attention to you.

First, they test whether you like working with new technologies or prefer researching things slowly, but later they expect you to have specific knowledge.

HR will first deceive you into joining, but many things have to be understood from a different angle before you can make sense of them.

If you’d like to experience the interviews and work content for yourself, everyone is welcome to come sell their lives for the company.

Come hone your skills.

Supervisors and HR appear very kind on the surface, but they are extremely self-serving. When they like you, you can climb quickly; when they dislike you, they resort to all kinds of petty tactics: assigning you terrible roles, telling you that the good positions have already been closed, or claiming they cannot find anything, that there is nothing available, leaving you stuck with the worst work or sidelined.

Because we are handling other people's outsourced projects, the client is treated like royalty, and whatever they say is law. When there is a dispute, they immediately find someone to blame, and you never know who will be thrown under the bus next.

Engineers are always the first targets for blame, and the client will absolutely tear you apart. Being criticized by the client is not even the worst part; the worst part is that your own project manager will not stand up for you either. They normally pretend to have a great relationship with everyone, but the moment something goes wrong, they are the first to push someone forward to take the fall.

The moment I hear that people are fighting to get in for an interview, I genuinely feel happy for you—encouraging everyone to come and fill these terrible positions.

I seriously can't think of any.

They said there would be internal openings, projects outsourced by clients and the government, AI and Python work, renovation or development projects—there would definitely be something for everyone to do, so there was no need to worry. Very optimistic.

They emphasized that the company values each employee's long-term impact more, and that everyone needs to become better in order to earn clients' trust and move them. With your abilities, you could earn an annual salary of one million in the future, and there would be no problem working there for 30 years.

Chunghwa Telecom, Fubon, E.SUN, the Executive Yuan—you were told not to worry. But when the deadline arrived, they said that these were the projects currently available, and I couldn't clearly explain them to you. Then they told you to give up applying for involuntary separation. Are you serious? Are you really that unfamiliar with the Labor Standards Act?

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International sales; only those willing to accept low salaries are hired. Female employees are pressured to resign before marriage, and pregnancy and childbirth are used as further pretexts for termination. In the past, departing employees often reported the company for violating the Labor Standards Act.

It is indeed an on-site position. HR also explains everything clearly, allowing you to decide whether to accept it.

Some benefits are better than those required by the Labor Standards Act. Although they are not the best compared with others, they are still acceptable.

The shortcomings on the client side seem to overlap with those of other on-site companies.

There are absolutely no advantages. The only advantage is probably that they tell you they are a staffing company that assigns employees to client sites.

They keep sending interview invitations nonstop, from 2019 through 2021. Will it ever end???

This morning, they called again to ask whether, since I had written C# at my previous company, I had also written JS and jQuery.

How unprofessional. Don’t they know these are two separate languages? What does it mean to have “written” something? Does merely having touched it count as having written it?

I answered no, and they immediately said, “Okay, thanks, bye-bye,” and hung up without even giving me a chance to speak. The quality of their HR staff is terrible—where did they find such unprofessional recruiters???

Not only is your company’s industry terrible and does it treat people as disposable; the quality of its staff is also extremely low.

The assistant managers and managers in the HR department are all very easy to communicate with. They are willing to listen to engineers’ “nonsense” and provide guidance.

There is a decent bonus for referring engineers to join.

For engineers, there is no future here, and it is also difficult to learn anything. At the client company where you are assigned, you are an outsider; they will not let you access key technologies or key projects. To the company, you are just a tool—an engineer who can be replaced at any time by someone else.

The so-called company plans for your future are just empty talk. They simply leave you alone to fend for yourself in a completely unfamiliar environment. The longer you endure, the more the company earns, because the money made from assigning one person out is several tens of thousands more than your salary.

They will try to suppress your salary during the interview. Honestly, considering industry rates, the salary they offer is not high either. Please—the two staffing companies run by the son of Yili’s owner are much more willing to offer competitive salaries.

The benefits are very poor. Ultimately, this is a staffing company. During the year, there is only a movie, a dinner costing around 600 per person, and an employee “outing” costing less than 1,000 per person. Compared with the benefits at other companies, it can only be described as unbelievably terrible. What kind of stingy company gives its employees only one dinner a year?

To that old man, the boss, only the people at the head office are truly employees of Yili Information. Everyone else from the staffing side or internal project teams is merely a tool. Last year’s three-day, two-night trip to Thailand was only for head-office employees, and they even went secretly. Did they really leave work on Thursday, drag their luggage straight to the airport, and think that those of us working elsewhere were stupid enough not to know about it? The estimated annual benefits for us engineers working outside do not even amount to one-tenth of the airfare for their Thailand trip. It feels extremely unfair.

The company benefits listed on 104 are untrue. Otherwise, they present an employee trip that was held once in the past as one of the benefits, trying to deceive people into thinking that the company regularly organizes activities. Yes, I’m talking about that so-called ball-game activity of yours—it simply does not exist.

There is no overtime pay.

No advantages

The manager at this company fires employees after the current project ends if they are unable to secure a subsequent project.

If you need to apply for an involuntary separation certificate, the matter must be reported to the labor bureau. Although the stated reason for the layoff is clearly the inability to secure a subsequent project, the company will still attempt to use the disparaging claim that “the employee is incompetent for the work they were hired to perform” in its application to evade paying severance. From beginning to end, management only explains that it is an upright, flawless company that has done nothing wrong.

In the end, I could only give up applying for an involuntary separation certificate. Compared with having to carry this kind of record, I believe giving up unemployment benefits and severance pay is the best course of action for departing employees.

If pursuing unemployment benefits and severance pay affects your next job, it would be a serious loss—an enormous one—that could affect you for the rest of your life.