歐比斯有限公司

Colleagues have close relationships and share a sense of solidarity, so they are all tolerant, considerate, and willing to help one another (this only applies among colleagues; the bosses are not included).

What the bosses are best at is saying one thing and doing another. The opinions they often express publicly are completely different from the policies they implement internally.

This is a company where staying for a long time will not bring you much value (stay for a little over a year to spruce up your résumé, then move to another company; at the very least, your salary will match your contributions). Don’t believe the bosses’ talk about bonuses, profit sharing, or international operations—whatever it may be.

Don’t use any newly learned tools at this company, because using tools that differ from everyone else’s will only result in the boss seeing an interface they have never encountered and deciding that you are different from everyone else, which must mean you are slacking off at work. Get ready to be chewed out over some completely nonsensical reason.

Seeing the boss living in their own world

You can tell that our vice president doesn’t know how to reflect on their actions just by reading their response on Facebook.

February 6, 5:11 a.m. ·

I’m constantly being educated right now.

December 6, 10:43 p.m.

Because I’m full of so-called wild ideas that employees dislike,

I have a habit of recording creative ideas,

and I often share some of my thoughts.

Over the years, I’ve come up with many things...

-----> In the end, nothing was ever produced, and our projects were worked to death.

December 7, 2:08 p.m.

At my previous job, I worked there for almost five years.

It was during a period of economic takeoff, but my salary was about 30,000 and was never adjusted.

-----> So if you don’t want to give us a raise, just say so. Don’t keep deceiving us little employees.

December 7, 7:59 p.m.

As long as you have the right people! The direction is the same! The philosophy is the same!

For a company under a certain size!

Things like systems aren’t important!

In the end, they played their trump card, saying that they themselves needed to adjust properly, but now nothing needs to be adjusted after all. We’re all wrong anyway. They create systems themselves and then destroy them. Somehow, everything is decided by them. Their Facebook posts are long-winded, just like their meetings, full of pointless talk. There is absolutely no focus; they just look for like-minded people to comfort themselves, their own followers. Right, then just do everything yourself.

Not that they have many ideas— they only hold a few small meetings. With so many employees, not a single person supports their comments. What a pathetic boss.

Wasn’t the job supposed to be helping clients with branding and marketing? And now they say they’re going to properly manage their own Facebook.... How hilarious.

A little employee whose regular salary doesn’t meet your 40,000 requirement

I am an employee who has been away from the company for some time, and over the years I have also experienced many different jobs. In all fairness, every job is really about what you want to gain: money, an easy workload, development, or experience.

An integrated marketing company touches a bit of everything. You learn quickly and do a wide variety of tasks, but how much you can absorb really depends on the individual.

Every team has its bad apples, and not everyone can apply what they learn to new situations. Most people are used to being told to do something before they do it. In particular, the mindset of “I’ll do as much as I’m paid” simply does not work at all. The flaw of the boss and the boss’s wife is that they are too sentimental and do not have the heart to decisively let go of people who are unsuitable. When one link in teamwork gets stuck, it easily causes resentment among employees. Perhaps, for people who want to coast along here, the boss’s freewheeling imagination makes this a good company to rise through the ranks in; I am not in a position to comment. After all, in the marketing field, this is a good thing. As for whether it is actually implemented, I personally think there is no one below who can carry it forward. Everyone is too comfortable with the small personal feelings and minor benefits in front of them. They only feel, “It seems like I’ve done a lot, but it seems like I receive very little bonus.” This repeated cycle and the atmosphere it creates can easily cool the enthusiasm of people who want to put their passion into practice, or drive them to resign.

People climb upward, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. As far as I know, many former employees have gone on to develop quite well. Should we thank Obis for giving us the basic groundwork? I want to state first that I am not a spokesperson, nor did anyone ask me to write this. It is just that sometimes, when you cannot understand or appreciate the efforts many people have made, overly emotional comments seem somewhat inappropriate. Looking at it from another angle, have you ever considered what I would do if I were the decision-maker?

It is easy to criticize a person and easy to badmouth a company. Try putting yourself in someone else’s shoes.

The boss and the boss’s wife need to learn to be more ruthless.

Colleagues are easy to get along with

1. The rules that are established are usually the first ones the boss breaks.

2. The boss is very good at talking about dreams, but their execution is only a three-minute burst of enthusiasm.

3. They are very good at using rhetoric to package and sell to clients, but the quality of the work is not proportional to the price.

4. They are adept at creating polished promotional materials and exaggerated marketing; the actual successful cases are always limited to a specific few companies.

1. Every case offers room for discussion and freedom:

As creative professionals, every case is like a blank sheet of paper to us.

The company deserves recognition for allowing cross-level discussions and providing unrestricted space for creativity.

2. Colleagues get along harmoniously:

Since most of them are long-term employees, the topics of conversation are quite simple: food, drinks, and fun.

Even if there is office politics, it is very limited. There are often gatherings and activities to participate in on weekdays and holidays.

3. The bosses provide attentive guidance:

When the company has newcomers, the bosses are willing to give them opportunities, and as long as you are willing to learn, they openly share their knowledge and guidance.

Their patience is worthy of recognition.

1. Payday is often delayed:

Simply put, friends who have used ATMs should know that transfers and bill payments made after 3:30 are generally processed as being made the next day.

It is like when a client asks you to submit work before the end of the day—how could that mean before your end of the day?! It definitely means before the client’s end of the day.

Who cares whether you finish work at 2 a.m. or 6 a.m.? Submitting after the client’s end of the day is late submission. That is common sense.

If employees can be given grand-sounding excuses, then under a responsibility-based system, can employees also finish their work and go home or skip coming to the office while still receiving full pay?

2. The two business units often have friction with each other:

If a company has two or more business units, it should establish correct core values from the bosses down to the employees.

If the weaker side constantly hears statements such as “Our XX department is the one supporting you” or “You don’t generate value or make money,” and so on,

then, besides damaging their dignity, employees will also begin to doubt their own unit and work, which will in turn be reflected in their performance.

3. The bosses come to work too late yet judge employees’ value based on time:

Basically, whether the company bosses come to work is not something employees can comment on.

However, it is unacceptable if they judge employees’ performance based on the bosses’ own working hours.

For example, if a colleague spends normal working hours washing xx or playing xx and only starts writing xx after the boss arrives at the office at 2 p.m.,

then the boss may think that employee is particularly diligent and hardworking and promote and give them a raise. Other colleagues will see this and simply conclude:

“Working hard is useless. I might as well take freelance work or find a side job—after all, the boss can’t see it.”

4. The bosses occupy the highest professional positions, creating an invisible glass ceiling:

An ambitious employee certainly wants to receive rewards for their hard work, and there are two forms of reward:

promotion and a raise. Usually, it starts with a promotion, but ultimately, no one becomes a creative director, design director, programming director, planning director, sales director… any kind of director.

You know what I mean~

Summary for management:

For an ordinary person to reach a senior position, apart from being Lien Chan’s son, the best way is to start from the grassroots level:

staff member > section chief > assistant manager > manager > vice president > director > general manager, or something along those lines.

Every level has issues that must be faced, and management subjects such as managing upward, downward, horizontally, and emotionally are compulsory.

If someone suddenly jumps directly from section chief to chairman one day, the whole system becomes chaotic—the management system gets thrown into disarray.

[The reason people are difficult to manage is that you have never managed people.] The “people” here also include yourself.

An administrative manager manages people, while a professional manager manages work; neither can be lacking.

If an administrative manager only manages work, it becomes a nonprofessional leader leading professionals.

If a professional manager manages people, emotional leadership and unfair resource allocation may result.

Unless someone is naturally driven by money and power and is willing to master both areas,

or is one of those Silicon Valley geniuses you admire, with millions of people willing to follow them,

otherwise things will end up as they are now: explain A and B argues back; defend B and a new C appears…

In addition, top management should not publicly respond to this kind of issue on social media or make statements that expose their emotions.

Writing a 20,000-word PR statement for employees is less effective than spending 20,000 on a PR dinner for them.

After all, this is not an elected presidency; public opinion is not the most important thing. Please do better, okay?

Summary for employees/former employees:

The company belongs to the boss, so it can become whatever they want. At most, we are just helping out by working a job.

Many absurd and socially disconnected things are best treated as something to laugh at and move on from.

If you are unhappy or see no prospects, do not continue being blindly accommodating—just leave directly, as I did.

If you are willing to stay while continuing to complain, you should first reflect on yourself.

Try increasing your value and soar to new heights!

The female owner is very nice

The male owner speaks at length during meetings, and I have absolutely no idea what he is trying to express

After looking at 104 Job Bank, as a current employee, I really want to ask: who in the company regularly earns NT$40,000...?

If this isn't a bad boss, what is? (Just as the name implies.) He only lies by saying the bonus is 1%, while the sales target has to be NT$2 million....

Frequently express opinions online

2. Good at managing LINE@ or Facebook; likes to pontificate on blogs/BBS and discussion forums

3. Likes traveling and taking photos everywhere to record life's little moments

4. Often has flights of fancy and enjoys writing

5. Understands popular internet language

Job categories:

Website Marketing Planner, Advertising Copywriter/Planner, Marketing Planning Assistant

Salary:

Negotiable (Regular salary of NT$40,000 or above) Report false information

Employment type:

Full-time

Since this is supposed to be a balanced report, let's treat everything as a con.

I am the vice president of Obis.

Originally, I believed that the internet was a place for free speech, so although I saw the comments above more than a year ago, I had no intention of responding.

But today I realized that not responding seemed to make the news report unbalanced.

So I thought I should come and clarify things.

I'll respond to the content above, since that's easier.

Let me explain the so-called advantages.

1. No pressure (the boss and his wife barely pay attention to your performance)

In fact, there are many training courses from time to time. Perhaps the original poster did not attend them, or left shortly after joining. Feel free to call and ask us anything. We value professionalism. If you are not yet very professional, we are willing to let people who genuinely want to learn join us and learn. It is true that we did not put too much pressure on people in the past, but if you do not improve your professional skills because no one pressures you, you are insulting yourself and wasting your life.

2. A lot of freedom in the company (the boss's wife likes the American style, so it is fine to walk around the office in slippers)

In fact, this line of work is highly stressful, so we hope to make things more relaxed for everyone. We like the American style, which is why we adopted it. However, judging from the text below, the word “adopted” seems to be more sarcastic. If you are mocking us for trying to imitate Google and ending up like a poor copy, I can only say that I like choosing things we can actually do. If even that deserves mockery, all I can do is chuckle. Of course, perhaps I am reading too much into it—sorry.

3. Harmonious relationships among colleagues (this is truly the only company I have seen where colleagues get along this well)

In fact, it is true that colleagues get along harmoniously. But if this is the only one, perhaps you should try working at a few more companies. Every company I have worked for had many good colleagues. I also hope colleagues at the company have close relationships, which is why we only supervise and support projects and try not to put on too much pressure.

4. Suitable for taking it easy and coasting (as long as you do not make a serious mistake, you will almost never be fired)

In fact, because we place great value on personal relationships, we do not often fire people. That is not the same as allowing employees to be lazy or unmotivated and treating leniency as an excuse for anything. There is a story about a death-row inmate who had been spoiled since childhood. Before his execution, he said he wanted to suck his mother's breast, then bit off her nipple. He blamed his mother for failing to discipline him strictly enough, causing him not to know right from wrong and ultimately committing a crime that led to his death sentence. If our failure to push you strictly has caused you to become lazy about learning, improve your abilities slowly, and lose your ambition, then I admit I was wrong—you can bite my chest instead. To avoid being bitten, the company is pushing people harder now. Perhaps it will no longer be suitable for coasting in the future. Sorry, we are no longer taking in retirees.

5. A good place for part-time work or side businesses (almost everyone in the company has a side business, mainly because you would starve on the company's pay alone)

In fact, salaries are determined by one's contribution to the company. The only people who would starve are those who have abilities but do not demonstrate them, or those without abilities who avoid responsibilities. Otherwise, some people earn more and some earn less. Those who complain that they might starve… As for allowing side businesses, why not allow them as long as they do not affect work, physical stamina, or the company's interests? If someone's side job affects their stamina, their work performance can only consist of doing what they are supposed to do, so naturally they will receive only the pay appropriate for that. That is fair to both sides. We have also had colleagues who were genuinely short of money and occasionally overslept the next day because they lacked the energy to come to work. I understood their hardship and allowed it, taking responsibility myself. But we have never encouraged moonlighting, because then neither side will be done well. We also discuss this with them. As for everyone having a side job—the literal “100%” claim makes it sound like you are deliberately trying to stir up trouble. Many current employees might object to that.

Now that I have finished discussing the advantages, let's talk about the disadvantages.

…

1. The boss likes to watch you work overtime to assess your commitment to the company. You do not actually have to do anything during overtime; you only need to sit in the company and leave later than everyone else.

In fact, we find out what people working overtime are doing and check on them. When someone works overtime, our supervisors always stay and work overtime with them. If someone has something to do and must leave first, they must apologize. If overtime produces additional results, we provide a separate bonus when the project is completed. If someone works overtime too often, we adjust their salary depending on the circumstances. If someone merely sits in the office and leaves later without making a clear contribution or noticeably improving their abilities, we will still consider the time they spent there and raise their salary or give them a small bonus. To earn a larger bonus, doing your assigned work well is not enough. Please improve your efficiency, complete more or more difficult work, effectively help your colleagues, work hard to improve your professional skills, and actually apply them. All of these can lead to a raise or an additional bonus. Alternatively, you can work overtime to trade time for earlier project completion. If you have the ability, demonstrate it; if your ability is insufficient, demonstrate your attitude. If you only work overtime without achieving any improvement in performance, you will still receive verbal recognition.

2. Labor and health insurance are always reported at the minimum amount.

In fact, are you referring only to your own situation? Otherwise, do you know everyone's salary at the company? The company underwent a comprehensive labor inspection last year and had no problems at all. Some people's salaries have structural issues, such as sales staff. For some people, after a raise, the reported amount may not be adjusted immediately, but it is in fact adjusted later. Even if we did not adjust it, did you not know that the labor and health insurance authorities introduced an automatic mandatory adjustment mechanism several years ago?

3. Salaries are always paid late (not because there is no money, but because the boss is too lazy to calculate them).

In fact, here is another inexplicable use of “always.” Our company pays salaries on the eighth of every month. Over the past ten years, salaries have been paid one working day late approximately three times, because we were out visiting clients or dealing with other matters during the day, causing payroll processing to run past midnight and making transfers impossible. We currently use the bank's EDI payroll transfer system, and salaries have been transferred on the same day for the past two years. Did you join and leave after only one month and happen to encounter a one-day delay? Use common sense: a company that always paid salaries late would have gone bankrupt long ago, wouldn't it?

4. The company's direction is a mess (there are always meetings full of empty talk, but nothing can be implemented).

In fact, this problem occurs in most companies, but everything we plan is implemented sooner or later. Planning takes place before implementation. If something cannot be implemented at the time, possible reasons include insufficient manpower, insufficient ability, passive resistance, or an immature external environment. Are you sure you paid attention during the meetings? Or did you sincerely help with the discussions and planning? Or did you simply think that less trouble was better? Or were you unable to see a goal at a certain distance because of your limited perspective? In any case, when the company plans a goal and direction, it means the company will bear the consequences regardless of success or failure. As one of the company's members and one of the people responsible for implementation, you mock a goal because it could not be implemented—are you really detached from it all, with no responsibility of your own? I am speechless…

5. The industry's thinking is extremely backward (while others are developing atomic bombs, we are still discussing concepts for practicing swordsmanship).

In fact, can you develop an atomic bomb simply because you want to? Our company is neither a conglomerate nor backed by a major investor. The company has only just reached the growth and transformation stage, and our people do not yet have the ability to develop a super-system or service like an atomic bomb. You mock the company's strategy as merely practicing swordsmanship. I will humbly reflect on that, and after you leave, I will find a way to teach everyone to use guns first. In fact, the company is indeed working hard to upgrade from primitive weapons to more advanced ones. I trust that after two years, your atomic bomb has already conquered the world. Congratulations.

Actually, there are far more disadvantages than those listed above, but these are the points I personally care about most, so I have listed only these for now.

In fact, every company necessarily has some advantages and disadvantages. We are willing to train newcomers, and we also hope skilled people will join us. We provide classes for new employees and are working toward developing our own platform. The purpose is to increase profits while improving compensation and benefits. The content above can be verified by people who actually join us. We do not dare claim that we are doing exceptionally well, but we have always been making an effort.

The comments above were probably really written by a company employee, but everything has matters of perspective. For example, many people sigh after leaving a company that the previous work environment was too comfortable and offered no room for growth, that they learned new technologies but could not put them to use, and that “if you offer only bananas, you can hire only monkeys,” attributing everything to exploitative old-style bosses, and so on.

In fact, after learning a new technology, did you let upper management know? If not, was it because you lacked confidence, or because you did not want to apply what you learned?

After upper management knew, did they refuse to let you try because there was no suitable project, or because the technology had little value?

Do you have to change jobs to leave your comfort zone? Do you need a higher salary before you have the motivation to leave it? Gold shines wherever it is—stop biting your mother's nipple!

When a monkey learns a new skill, it will get more bananas too. Hoarding your knowledge will not suddenly turn the company into a chimpanzee's cafeteria. At this company, you must demonstrate your ability first before receiving corresponding compensation.

The “talent” mentioned above who only discovered after entering society that there are exploitative old-style bosses is why we schedule many interviewees at once when recruiting. To find talent in the shortest time, we schedule interviews closely together. When the schedule is full, we can only first ask whether someone is available on a particular day. The 104 system is used only a few times a year, and when there is an interview-booking field, we fill it in. Even if the wording was a little brief, it should not have made anyone feel that we were overbearing or offensive. If it really did, I apologize to you here. I am sorry that I made you so angry that you spent time leaving a comment here.

Good talent is precious, and we value it greatly. Even long after employees leave, they still come back to visit. Employees and clients alike continue to introduce projects to us. However, some people have been fired or resigned because of problems with their professional abilities or work attitudes. People who respond positively to the company will naturally also have negative emotions. Everyone can think about what I have said for themselves—we are all adults. Come to Obis and you will find out what kind of person I am, whether the company has a future, and what the environment is like. Please come and talk to us in person. There is a 50% chance that I will conduct the interview.

None

A great many.

It was only after I entered the workforce and started looking for jobs that I truly realized a company could be this terrible.

They called to invite me to an interview. I said I would have more time after May 20. She called around May 10 to invite me, but unbelievably replied, “May 20? We may have already found someone by then...” (Then please don’t contact me if you’re so in demand.)

Then she sent an invitation through 104 first. After I replied, she called me, but it turned out she had not looked at my résumé at all. After looking at my résumé, she asked, “Can you write marketing plans?”

I still remember that sentence to this day. I was completely dumbfounded.

It was as if everything I had written on my résumé was fake.

Finally, the most outrageous part: I had not resigned at the time. I was leaving my job on May 20 and explained that I would have more time after May 20. She said she would contact me again if necessary. But then she herself sent me an invitation asking me to interview on May 15. There was no phone call or communication in between; she simply set the interview time directly, as if she were so highly sought-after.

All I can say is, please, whatever you do, don’t go to a company with this kind of exploitative boss or arrogant HR department.

This is an interesting company!

Let’s start with the pros.

1. No pressure (the boss and the boss’s wife hardly care about your performance)

2. A lot of freedom within the company (the boss’s wife likes the American style, so it’s fine if you walk around the office in flip-flops)

3. Harmonious relationships among colleagues (this is genuinely the only company I’ve seen where the coworkers are all this nice to one another)

4. Suitable for taking it easy and enjoying a laid-back life (as long as you don’t make a serious mistake, you’re unlikely to be fired)

5. A good place for part-time work or a side business (almost everyone at the company has a side business, mainly because you’d starve if you relied solely on the company’s pay)

Now that we’ve covered the pros, let’s talk about the cons!

1. The boss likes to use how much overtime you work to assess your commitment to the company. You don’t actually have to do anything during overtime; you just need to sit at the company and leave later than everyone else.

2. Labor and health insurance are always reported at the minimum insurable salary.

3. Salaries are always paid late (not because there’s no money, but because the bosses are too lazy to calculate them).

4. The company’s direction is a complete mess (there are endless meetings where people talk without actually being able to execute anything).

5. The industry mindset is extremely backward (while others are already developing atomic bombs, this company is still discussing how to practice swordsmanship properly).

Actually, there are far more drawbacks than those listed above, but these are the points I personally care about most,

so I’ll only list these for now!

In summary, this company is suitable for fresh graduates and people who are just entering the industry,

but don’t be too surprised if you encounter a lot of strange phenomena.

Basically, if you can stay for a year and learn some basic knowledge, you can pretty much leave.

If you stay any longer, it will be frightening!